Too true Sammy! But every case like this chips away at them even if only in passing.
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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA
by Dagney inhttp://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
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Elizabeth McFarland child abuse lawsuit on the news
by cedars inhi folks.
i'm aware that there is already a thread on the newly-announced elizabeth mcfarland lawsuit, but i thought i would start a new thread for the benefit of lurkers showing the newly released news videos more prominently.. here they are.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfhrhrvm2c4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegm1gunz2c.
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Thanks Cedars, I knew you'd come up with the goods. Great overview on your blog too.
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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation
by AndersonsInfo inmedia alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
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@spalsh DATA-DOG is spot on with the double-speak accusation. They "say" one thing then impose another. If I have no special relationship with the society then why are they concerned about my actions and call me before a "legal" hearing of 3 elders?
No special relationship, then leave me alone.
The legal position with these cases is actually quite simple. The society knew of a molester and let him carry on without reporting him or informing others of the danger.
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Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.
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what a strange speaker. why does he talk like that? freak!
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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA
by Dagney inhttp://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
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An usher? That's a new one!
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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA
by Dagney inhttp://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
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Ha ha, you beat me to it. Just posted a couple of minutes after you. Good find though although not really something we have to search for these days - so many coming out of the woodwork.
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CHILD ABUSE: Los Angeles County district attorney's office charge JW Marcelo Lozano with nine felony counts.
by S EIGHT inhttp://www.turnto23.com/news/state/la-jehovahs-witness-congregation-usher-charged-with-child-sexual-abuse-073113.
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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation
by AndersonsInfo inmedia alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
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Clarification of my previous point in regard to how this case is similar to the Conti case.
If you go back over the Rick Simons interviews you'll notice he specifically states that certain conditions must be met for a case to have a chance to succeed. He also hints to other cases that have merit but do not stack up to the specifics of the Conti complaint.
As quite rightly pointed out by DATA-DOG there is clear evidence of "special relationship", a point vehemently denied by Watchtower at the Conti trial.
The legal team in this McFarland case have made a very good arguement that a special relationship exists between Watchtower and "ALL" members whether they have a position of responsibility or not - everyone is appointed as an ordained minister and representitive of of the "company" at point of baptism.
The Watchtower controls every aspect of a members life from whether or not they can become a member in the first place through to what to eat, what to wear, who to marry, what medical treatment to have, how to have sex and who with, what to think, what not to think, what to say, what opinions to have and so on. If you break the company code on any of these points willfully then you are punished and removed. The McFarland case outlines the extent to which Watchtower has control and dictates the life course of all members regardless of rank.
It cannot be argued that Watchtower has no control over the actions of it's members.
The other similarity is the fact that the abuser in the McFarland case had a history of abusing which Watchtower was aware of and did not take the necessary action to prevent further acts of abuse.
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Protecting pedophiles while protecting children
by stillin ini know that a lynch mob forms whenever there's a hint of anybody being a pedophile, but the truth is that not all are the slavering, predatorial animals that they are painted to be.
each circumstance has its' own specifics.
in defense of the wts, they do keep track of confirmed pedophiles now.
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Interesting comment jhine in regard to child porn. An elder in our congregation who was convicted for child sex offences was found to have thrown his laptop away just as it came to light that he'd been up to no good.
It's just an opinion but in my view it smacks of suspicion.
Hence the need for congregations to report all instances of child abuse whether there are two witnesses or not as the authorities have the resources to check things like internet history which hepls to build a profile of the alleged offender.
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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation
by AndersonsInfo inmedia alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
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Hmm, it doesn't actually say whether he was convicted of the first case of abuse. Can This be found out through court records or did he commit suicide before facing a jury? Perhaps I need to give it another read...